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    ABC voting and BTR-Score are the single best methods by VSE I've ever seen.

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    • GregW
      GregW @k98kurz last edited by

      @k98kurz said in ABC voting and BTR-Score are the single best methods by VSE I've ever seen.:

      Developing a genetic algorithm to evolve a strategy that breaks a system would be an interesting side project. When I get the spare time and energy, I'll see if I can cook one up and set up a computer to just chug away at it until I have some results.

      A great idea! To determine the best voting systems, we need to find the weaknesses of each voting system. Better testing methods are key. A tool like you propose would be invaluable.

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        cfrank @k98kurz last edited by

        @k98kurz it’s really great you’re working on these kinds of reinforcement learning methods in this field, definitely something both very interesting and that can give us insight into how these systems work. Looking forward to hearing about any of the work in this area!

        score-stratified-condorcet [10] cardinal-condorcet [9] ranked-condorcet [8] score [7] approval [6] ranked-bucklin [5] star [4] ranked-irv [3] ranked-borda [2] for-against [1] distribute [0] choose-one [0]

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        • GregW
          GregW @cfrank last edited by

          @cfrank said in ABC voting and BTR-Score are the single best methods by VSE I've ever seen.:

          it’s really great you’re working on these kinds of reinforcement learning methods in this field,

          Actually I do not have the mathematical expertise. If my new nonprofit, Voters Takes Charge, (under construction at voterstakecharge.us password no longer needed) receives generous support we may be able to commission such work.

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            Jack Waugh last edited by Jack Waugh

            I think I like it.

            ABC || DEF

            A Stein
            B Williamson
            C West
            D Kennedy
            E Harris
            F Trump

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            • wolftune
              wolftune last edited by

              I wish this investigation had included BTR-RCV

              (side-note: don't call it BTR-IRV, that includes "runoff" twice and is less-clear as a name)

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                Casimir @Ex dente leonem last edited by

                @ex-dente-leonem
                I wanted to create some figures for an article on MARS voting that I plan to write, but fail to run vse-sim. Is it okay for you when use your results?

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                      Isocratia last edited by

                      Does anyone know if BTR-Score is immune to turkey-raising / DH3?

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                        Casimir @Isocratia last edited by Casimir

                        @isocratia
                        Good question. According to Electowiki:

                        Methods that pass dominant mutual third burial resistance [DMTBR] provide no incentive to bury under a dark horse.

                        Following the argument here it is clear that BTR-score fails DMTBR

                        In election (A) and (B) A wins. In (D) the winner is C, but in (E) the winner is A again. (I assumed score from 0 to 2.)

                        where A is the CW, and so (E)->(D) is a DMTBR failure.

                        But this does not exclude the possibilty that the score part reduces the strategic incentive to bury.

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                          Jack Waugh last edited by

                          How should ABC voting treat unmarked candidates?

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                            cfrank @Jack Waugh last edited by cfrank

                            @jack-waugh I think anything except the minimum for unmarked candidates makes it too easy to mark bullet burials. But I don’t know.

                            score-stratified-condorcet [10] cardinal-condorcet [9] ranked-condorcet [8] score [7] approval [6] ranked-bucklin [5] star [4] ranked-irv [3] ranked-borda [2] for-against [1] distribute [0] choose-one [0]

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